Loading ...Stéphane Dion proposes carbon ‘tax shift’
Thursday, May 15th, 2008
Stéphane Dion outlined his latest vision for the economy and environment during a speech at the Canadian Club of Toronto.
Dion proposed a carbon tax during the speech, saying it will be revenue neutral because he would also lower other taxes.
MacKay Editorial Cartoons: Liberals uneasy about Dion’s plan for carbon tax
Some Liberals are uneasy of the plan, fearing it will be difficult to sell during an election.
Links:
- Report: Pricing Carbon: Saving Green (David Suzuki Foundation)
- Regulatory Framework for Industrial Greenhouse Gas Emissions (Government of Canada)
- Video: Stephen Harper’s economic plan
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June 9th, 2008
Dion your an idiot. Since when have the liberals ever given back anything they have stolen from the Canadian people. It may be getting warmer, it has since the last ice age, but the idea that a carbon dioxide is responsible for anything so complex is rediculus. It’s all about liberal socialist distroying the white western middle class as they have been trying to do since Karl Marcx.
Socialist want only an elite,”them” who rule
and everyone else poor to do their bidding.
June 9th, 2008
Did you actually watch the video, or are you just another Tory troll, paid to smear forums with your poorly written verbal feces? What Dion is proposing here is neither new, nor controversial. He is taking a number of fiscal concepts pertaining to the rationalization of our tax system and combining them. Our current approach to taxation is archaic; we must rethink how we tax, so that we can do so in a way that is transparent, economically efficient, and in line with our country’s values.
June 10th, 2008
At least he`s honest. He says he`s going to tax us . The Cons said they would never tax ( Income Trusts). At least with this idiot we know what we`re getting. Yeah Stephan, we`re going to get more of what we want. And this can only happen if confiscate more of my income. The right tax cuts ???? Nothing like being specific… where are you gonna do this? Yes the “politics of hope”.. whatever that means. We need a leader for this country. God help us
June 12th, 2008
You are ignorant…
Just drop the old idea you have liberals, and start seeing this man as the Ron Paul of Canada…
June 13th, 2008
You obviously don’t know anything about Dion, Ron Paul, or liberalism.
June 15th, 2008
Hey Stephanie just stick to wearing womens underwear you bag licking whimp. You liberal socialist have been trying to distroy the white middle class since Karl Marx. The idea that carbon dioxide “a must for life on earth by the way” is causing the world to warm on it’s own is ludicrous. You tell me when in history, the climate of the world has ever stayed constant. It never has you moron.
June 19th, 2008
Anytime a Liberal has a plan I expect my wallet to be picked clean. Absolutely brilliant idea to increase taxes when gas is at its highest. What idiots these leftists are. The only leader stupider than Dion would be the quasi-communist Layton.
June 19th, 2008
liberalism, well… youre not going to find it with Harper..
Dion is strong advocate for Natural and herbal meds,the environment, free economy, small government, more powers to the provinces…
harper is has shown he nothing but a neo-con, selling us to the highest bidder and making aims to censor the media…
youtube and google SPP and bill C51 (police state laws)…
June 19th, 2008
Dion has Kyota, and carbon taxes on his brain. Kyota was an excuse to implement more taxes period. Voters of Canada should take this socialist scumbag at his word and make sure he never becomes PM of Canada.
June 20th, 2008
What?!? You have it backwards, Dion and the Liberals specifically call for a stronger central government, NOT stronger provinces. Harper has been actively devolving these powers to the provinces.
And understand that neo-cons aren’t really right wing at all, they are actually statist lefties who want to increase the size and scope of government because they believe people need to be governed. Search for Ron Paul’s speech “Neo-conned” to see the difference between a libertarian and a neo-con.
June 20th, 2008
….Harper has become worse than his competition (dion), he came into power on small-government rhetoric and has completely abandoned it in favour of stunts and pandering to old Mulroney/Harris franchises. Like I said, google Bill C51 (police state laws), the SPP… Oh and btw, when Harper WAS leader of the opposition he pressured the house to IRAQ!! Harper also attends bildiberger meetings!!!
Dion has personally voted against both Iraq and afghanistan.
June 20th, 2008
Yeah, I watched, and all I hear is hot air from Borat Dion. You won’t get lower taxes from Liberals. Thirteen of the past fifteen years under Liberal rule is proof positive. Their multi-billion dollar federal surpluses were the result of over-taxation, period. The devil is in the details, and believe me, the devil’s all over this one. This is the mother of all tax grabs disguised in feel-good blathering from le professeur. Back to the drawing board, Borat.
June 20th, 2008
“old idea…liberals”!!! My god, please think of Canada for once, not the lie-beral party! Bottom line…the lie-berals laughed at this guy during the leadership conference…do you agree that all Cdns should be laughing at this guy as well? Just wondering….
June 20th, 2008
They, as in the liberal convention, elected a new leader with new vision for the party… Someone who doesnt have any of the old liberal blood on his hands… The whole idea that he is not a leader is manifested from the media, and like most people, you have jumped on board to this idea.. Before you discount him, I ask simply to verse yourself on the new party platform…
June 20th, 2008
You NOw What we Shall see NExt election I can tell you harper is going to be out the door.
June 21st, 2008
Dion has a secret plan to cut national defense budget by half and this way he will recuperate 16 billions to fund his silly plan.
The liberals have always been and still are anti-military.I’m sorry to tell you this but without a military you can not call yourself a country.Canadians unite and fight for your country!!!!!!!!!!get rid of Dion.
June 22nd, 2008
How can we deal with this Dion–so arrogant! He does have the old lie-beral blood on his hands–he was in the midst of the corruption scandal; but, no proof could be found! This man is a light-weight…even lie-berals (with their traditional very low standards) acknowledge this!
June 22nd, 2008
This is only the tip of the iceberg. In addition to much higher carbon taxes, if elected, Mr. Dion will begin sending billions of our tax dollars to other countries to buy Kyoto reduction credits. What a great plan. Let’s destroy Canada’s economy to save the planet! Canada represents a 2% contribution to the planet’s green house gases. And if anyone thinks that our standard of living will not be severely and negatively impacted, you are terribly mistaken.
June 23rd, 2008
Ya, here’s a solution-ottawa puts geothermal heating in my house and I pay it back with income tax. Won’t happen I know, because practical help from politicians is a waste of time. Continue in your irrelavence Dion and Harper, it’s what you do best.
June 29th, 2008
I think that little “quote” about the politics of hope, is just a attempt by the liberals to take some lessons from Obama down south, and use his tactics and slogans in canada to attract canadian Obama supporters.
June 29th, 2008
This doesn’t sound or look like a campaign stop, no, ‘course not! He just has alot of Liberals in the same room at once, with t-shirts, signs, baseball caps, a stump speech, potshots at his political opponents. That doesn’t seem like a campaign stump speech does it?
June 30th, 2008
carbon tax what a great idea
The global government can now be funded, just need to push it through to every nation world wide
muahahahahaha
Wake up people, world carbon tax is a tax on people world wide.
Who keeps track and where do these tax funds go to?
im not even a conservative, this is just hogwash
July 1st, 2008
Can anyone tell me what this girl Stephanie is talking about?
I can’t understand a word she’s saying.
July 2nd, 2008
What a bunch of bullshit!!
It is not global warming it is climate change.
This is a fraud and we are giving away our rights while funding the 1 world government.
We need to unite and fight this complete enslavement.
Give me a fucking break “good for your wallet and good for the planet” This is bullshit and the revolution is just beginning. Humanity is about to destroy the Neo con New World Order fascists
July 4th, 2008
Humans keep on coming!! so what ever you enviro freaks don’t seem to get, is it’s not just carbon but everything material. You can Make a magic car that runs with no emissions soon every one in the world will have one . The catch is, we keep growing by 7% per year . Soon all you silly Earthlings will go the way of dino. And no Damn Politician is going to change it.
July 6th, 2008
There are no very few experts that DON’T support a carbon tax shift. It is supported & in place in social-dem scandanavian countries and it is supported by right wing free enterprise institutions like the American Enterprise Institution. By definition it is the shifting from a tax on a positive (income tax on growth etc) to a tax on a negative (the damage done to the economy). Dion demonstrates his serious interest in dealing with climate change in Canada - excellent work!!!
July 8th, 2008
Are you really Canadian? You mean you aren’t all brainwashed egomaniacal socialists who let international clubs do all your thinking for you? Free speech isn’t completely dead up there yet?
You’re always welcome down here if they get to be too much for you, I’m sure Kucinich would have been elected Liberal prime minister in a heart beat but he couldn’t pull 1% during the Democratic primaries. So glad you have sense enough to realize the actual problem and the misdirection of carbon taxes.
July 8th, 2008
Hey wreedon no I’m not brain washed, but I do think there are as many, as to per capita, “mushrooms” in the states as there is in canuckistan. Thanx for the invite to the states. I would love to ride my HD down for a visit. You yanks are always welcome up here. Although your administration has been printing so many green backs that I don’t know if you will be able to afford to come.
July 15th, 2008
I’ll google corruption and I’ll find the lie-berals! This man was the center of the corruption sandal; yet, he hid his tracks!!! He is part of the corruption boys and Canadians cannot trust him!
July 16th, 2008
hey its my old cynical pal! How are ya? Up to your old dust kicking tricks again?Surely you cannot be rejecting the Green Shift Plan that promotes economic prosperity&environmental sustainability.One that has widespread support from both the right&left.You wouldnt do that would you?
Surely you wouldnt get involved in the Conservative attacking game?I mean you have to sympathize with the Conservatives,they have no credibility when it comes to a Climate Change plan so they decide to go and attack.
July 16th, 2008
Dude,all politicians do that…Harper does it just as much (he additionally controls much of the media coverage as well)
July 16th, 2008
Nope…you go back to his leadership bid and he spoke this way…Obama has just centred it in the middle of his campaign…
July 16th, 2008
Secondly, yes when he unveiled the official Green Shift Plan it was in front of a partisan crowd but notice where this vid is…
The Canadian Club…this is not simply a Liberal gathering…
July 16th, 2008
My friend–I ask you again, please think of the country first–then your lie-beral party second! Are you talking about the economy destroying Green Shaft Plan that is facing widespread criticism from both the left&right? Yes, Conservatives have no credibility after 2 yrs in a minority gov’t, while Dion and his lie-berals have credibility after 13 yrs in a majority. Please give your head a shake and, Stand up for Canada! Sure makes us all proud..you as well?
July 17th, 2008
Certainly the Liberals took a very “pro-environment” stance through their years and did not really take significant action until their minority govt years.Then we have Mr Harper come in calling GHG “so-called”,announces that Kyoto is a “socialist scheme to drain money out of rich countries”, and due to public pressure he tries to ‘greenify’ himself.Now he boasts that his plan is cutting GHG emissions significantly,when every environmental expert who has examined it has rejected all of it.
July 17th, 2008
I am standing up for Canada with a plan that other countries around the world will envy.If you are speaking about left and right criticism, well of course the Conservatives and NDP will criticize it, they certainly cannot endorse it.But because they know the merits of the plan they both decide to attack it instead of endorsing their own plans…
July 18th, 2008
The Canadian Club is a far left group. It’s still partisan!
July 18th, 2008
Ok but the Liberals arent a “far left” party…this is showing how this plan is one that converges traditional “left” and “right” ideologues…
July 18th, 2008
Oh my, oh my–how weak your agruement truly is! So the lie-berals took a very pro-environmental stance..and, what exactly did they do? (Answer: worse than nothing–emissions got worse!) Please, be honest, Dion and the lie-berals cannot be trusted. (Want to get a lie-beral supporter angry? Ask them about what the lie-berals did for the environment and tell them they cannot use the word, “Plan”–great fun as their face turns red.)
July 18th, 2008
Interesting…I thought you said the right&left supported Dion’s plan…now you are telling me “of course…will criticize”. Can you at least get your pathetic story right? Just wondering….(ready to Stand up for Canada now?)
July 19th, 2008
I have made it pretty clear yet you are trying to poke holes into a steel argument here.People who find themselves on the right side of the political spectrum support it because of its economic restructuring while those on the left support it because it will finally be concrete action to reduce emissions.
What I find interesting is that both the NDP and the Conservatives have decided that they must attack the Liberal plan instead of endorsing their own.Sounds like they have no substance.
July 19th, 2008
…especially when many of their supporters are being drawn to the Liberals
July 19th, 2008
Here is a quote for you: “Far from being opposed to carbon taxes, economists in Canada are, if anything, leading the charge in that direction. The Green Shift proposal put forward by Stéphane Dion and the Liberal Party, for example, is largely based on a paper written by Jack Mintz and Nancy Olewiler…”
July 19th, 2008
“…Jack Mintz, former president of the C.D. Howe institute and now poster boy - literally - for the School of Policy Studies at the University of Calgary, is widely acknowledged as perhaps Canada’s foremost expert on taxation…”
July 19th, 2008
“…it is remarkable the degree of consensus that exists among Canadian economists that some form of carbon taxation is both a desirable and necessary part of any realistic carbon reduction strategy. To suggest otherwise, I’d suggest, is a distortion of the truth.”
Jim Sentance — Department of Economics, University of Prince Edward Island
July 19th, 2008
They did not do a whole lot during their majority years; its difficult when you dont have widespread public support for such initiatives.Now we have a more than receptive electorate and a Prime Minister whose plan is an embarrassment to Canadians and does little in the way of reducing emissions (and remember there are no offsetting tax cuts like the Green Shift in their plan to offset rises in the costs of goods and energy)
July 19th, 2008
Since the plan is simply a wealth transfer from traditional low lie-beral support areas to their “home” regions, then I am glad the NDP and Cons. are thinking of Cdn’s first and opposing the plan. When 2 distinct parties from both ends of the political spectrum join to oppose something–you realize how pathetic the lie-beral plan must be…agreed?
July 19th, 2008
Actually…the embarrassment to Cdn’s is the lie-beral years of inaction. Just to explain, when one is in a majority gov’t, they can pass whatever bills they want. So, are you saying lie-berals were liers when they preached environmental initiatives? Likely they are still liers, isn’t it?
July 19th, 2008
Hmmmm…are you talking about lie-beral promises to drop the GST? Or the biggest lie to run an honest gov’t. Dion was at the center of the lie-beral corruption scandal; however, he hid his tracks well. Thank goodness we now have a leader in Mr. Harper–Mr. Dithers (Martin) or Mr Dithers 2 (Dion) just aren’t up to the job.
July 19th, 2008
Pleeeeease, get your story straight! The NDP hates the plan, the Conservatives hate the plan (they are thinking of Cdns rather than their party). It is obvious Dion has layed a very big egg. I guess time to again laugh at him as lie-berals did at the convention…just wondering…
July 20th, 2008
Man you could run some of the pathetic Conservative attack ads with your lousy rhetoric. He hid his tracks well? The truth is he has been cleared of any wrong-doing by competent authorities. Are you questioning Judge Gomery’s competence?
July 20th, 2008
Sorry its my fault. I will make it a bit clearer. The NDP hate it because the price on pollution portion is taken out of their playbook, and the Conservatives hate it because it is a competent and sensible plan unlike their current environmental strategy.
July 20th, 2008
I find it interesting that you are not responding to my quote from an economist. Further, it is not wealth distribution as you term it (more Conservative rhetoric). It is focussed on polluters throughout the country (that includes southern Ontario). The tar sands will have to clean up their ways and they have the added benefit of tax cuts to finance the clean up (not that they need it with their outrageous profits).
July 20th, 2008
The tax is progressive and will not cripple anyone right away. It will make good business sense to start cleaning up your particular business and you will be financed by offsetting tax cuts. By year 4, if you have played your cards right, you will be ahead of the game because you will pay minimal tax while reaping the tax cut rewards…
July 20th, 2008
I think I have already made this clear. I am not condoning their inaction, I simply am stating the reason why it did not happen. Public support for Climate Change initiatives was very low and thus the government didn’t feel that the public wanted such action. A majority govt may structurally have the capacity to pass whatever bills they please more or less but if they seek re-election they must make sure that such bills are in line with the public confidence.
July 20th, 2008
So we are supposed to support this Green Shift because it will change our behavior by sending a price signal and incresing the cost of energy?
But the new tax supposedly won’t affect the price at the pump, which is where individuals create most GHG emmissions. I guess the idea is to make us switch to alternative energy sources … except there are NO ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS!
So we’re left with a new tax that won’t accomplish anything, but don’t worry the Liberals will give the money back.
July 23rd, 2008
Don’t get angry!!! Just because no evidence was found…Since Dion was the Quebec cabinet rep. this must prove he is (was) incompetent…can’t have it both ways can you? Just wondering…
July 23rd, 2008
Wow!!! Everyone is against the apron-wearer (Dion)don’t they call that “paranoia”? Guess most Cdn’s agree with Iggy and Dryden…Dion just didn’t get it done!
July 23rd, 2008
Uhhh…again…you are wrong! The lie-berals could have lead rather than lie about environmental initiatives (signing Kyoto) and then having a worse record than non-signers (the US). Looks like lie-beral excuse, after excuse about their inaction is becoming ridicuous…any surprise?
July 23rd, 2008
I find it interesting that you do not acknowledge that Mr. Harper is an economist; and, therefore, by your pov should certainly have more insight than Mr. Dion—Mr. Ivory Tower. How could you disagree?
July 23rd, 2008
So the tax “will not cripple”…but, I therefore assume will hurt. Will Dion quit flip-flopping on this issue (he did vow never to bring a tax in like this). Will this man ever be a leader?
July 23rd, 2008
I do know that Mr Harper has his masters in Economics. I also know that he cut the GST, a tax that in the mind of economists was the worst tax he could have cut in terms of boosting economic consumption.
July 23rd, 2008
Yes it will punish polluters. Thats the whole point…but for those whose intentions are to convert their companies to more environmentally friendly/sustainable way they can finance this transition with the tax cuts…
Funny how this is all the Conservatives have.Attack attack attack because they have no substance of their own.How about constrasting their plan with the Liberal plan in an open public debate?No,Conservatives cant do that because of course their plan is an embarrassment.
July 23rd, 2008
Actually there are already huge federal taxes on gas thats why there will be no tax on gas at the pump.And technically no that isn’t the area where individuals create the most GHG emissions; it is the most visible but not the most contributing (still important area to cut though).
One reason that you cannot see the alternatives in the current marketplace is because it is an unfair marketplace for them. The Green Shift will help level the playing field for them to get ahead.
July 23rd, 2008
They could have.But Canadians were not ready for such action on Climate Change.They were more focussed on the economy after coming out of one of the hardest recessions in recent memory(esp Ontario).Once the Liberals balanced the books they did shift their focus to the environment.But by that time though they found themselves in a minority government with an NDP balance of power who felt they would be better off in another election rather than moving forward positive environmental legislation.
July 23rd, 2008
Sorry but transportation is a significant 25% of Canada’s total GHG emissions, and is 80% of individuals’ emissions.
But how can Dion’s tax simultaneously leave prices unchanged while also providing an incentive to change our individual energy choices? And what realstic choices do we have anyway? Energy demand is very inelastic, and will be until some real alternatives are available.
Meanwhile Dion’s tax accomplishes nothing. But we should all trust him to give the money back. Yeah right.
July 24th, 2008
Well we have different numbers in terms of individuals contributions to GHG and where they come from.I did not dismiss vehicles by any stretch but there are other huge contributors including electricity use, waste disposal, heating,etc.Certainly, the benefits of cutting GHG from vehicles is that it makes up a significant difference in terms of real results and the visual nature of the project itself.
July 24th, 2008
The tax doesn’t leave prices unchanged, Im not sure where you got that from. That is the whole point of the tax; raise prices on inefficient products (things that create GHG or were produced and resulted in high GHG). The price changes will be offset by cuts in income taxes and corporate taxes allowing people to have more disposable income in which to spend on more efficient choices, while companies can use the extra capital to reduce their emissions (and their carbon taxes)…
July 24th, 2008
As far as alternatives go, they are out there. But unfortunately their success is limited right now because they cannot compete with the Oil Giants. The Green Shift allows them to become more competitive because they will receive tax breaks and will pay limited carbon taxes. More and more companies will find it financially feasible to move into this market as well and thus the growth of the green sector snowballs.
July 24th, 2008
People will reduce their energy consumption at first because they will realize the costs associated and the limited alternatives initially. But they will start to find the more efficient, cleaner and cheaper alternatives and will move to these products…
July 24th, 2008
Dion and the Liberals say the tax won’t affect gas prices, not me. That’s a ridiculous claim, but there you have it.
But my point is even if it does increase prices it won’t have any effect because of the proven inelasticity of demand.
So its a pointless tax, and its only virtue is that is it is supposed to be revenue neutral. But we have to trust that it will actually be revenue neutral in order to support it. People are skeptical about Dion’s plan and his promise to give the money back.
July 24th, 2008
People are skeptical because of the Conservative attack games full of lies…
And no the tax will not be put on gas prices. Dion has admitted that there will be some affect on the price but it will be very minimal because oil is a global commodity and the prices will not skyrocket because of a carbon tax in Canada.
July 24th, 2008
Demand will not change, you are right. Where the demand will be satisfied will though. Non-renewable resources such as Oil (the spine of our current economy) will be depended on less, while there will be a greater emphasis on products that have significantly reduced emissions or no emissions at all.
The revenue neutral part is clearly laid out in the plan if you read it.Its guaranteed by an independent third party: the Auditor General.She will review the plan every year to ensure its neutrality.
July 24th, 2008
I have acknowledged Mr Harper’s degree in Economics and how he has seemingly abandoned those fundamentals…
So back to my quote, your response?
July 24th, 2008
Again I ask you are you questioning Judge Gomery’s competence?
July 24th, 2008
Well, the Auditor General broke open the sponsorship scandal and identified $40 million stolen by the Liberal Party. But it turns out we can’t trust the Liberals to pay it back, why should we trust them to refund the carbon tax? And anyway why should we even try to trust Dion when his tax won’t actually make a difference. We agree demand is inelastic and there are no workable alternatives, so WHAT’S THE POINT OF THE TAX?
July 24th, 2008
The plan is revenue neutral (technically it is a net tax cut initially to ensure any extra revenues from the carbon tax are offset). And the neutrality of the tax will be reviewed annually by the Auditor General. Basically its like your income taxes every year, if you pay too much income tax you get a return and thats what would happen if the carbon taxes were not initially offset.
July 24th, 2008
I have already said that the tax does affect prices and Mr Dion has already acknowledged that.
It steers the market because it will make more business sense to cut your costs (carbon taxes) by investing in emission-cutting practices.They can finance these investments with the tax cuts.The business itself will be better off with environmentally-friendly products because that is what consumers will be looking for…
That is the “steering” of the market…
July 24th, 2008
He’s been cleared by Liberal friends in high places. Canada has been under the control of Liberals most of its history and Liberals are in many prominent government and judicial positions. Don’t think for a minute Chretien isn’t being repayed for previous favours.
July 24th, 2008
Yes, but there is government revenue coming from other places in which to finance the investment…
July 24th, 2008
You’re saying the tax is about sending a price signal again, but that just doesn’t make any sense because Dion’s tax is insignificant compared to price increases already occurring in the market. You agree demand is ineleastic, but you still expect a 3% price increase from Dion’s tax to have a greater impact than a 180% price increase from the market. Seriously, what’s the point of the tax if the market is sending price signals on its own?
July 24th, 2008
Ok so what programs and services is Dion going to cut to find this money for the phantom investment? Or is he going to raise taxes to pay for it? Sure not the same taxes he’s cutting in order to ‘give back’ the carbon tax revenue.
July 24th, 2008
The taxation of income trusts needed to be re-structured. The Liberals chose to ignore the problem. The inequities due to taxation gave income trusts had an advantage over corporate structures that should not have existed. Harper did what needed to be done in the tax treatment of trusts.
July 24th, 2008
Middle and lower income earners drive older vehicles because they can’t afford a new vehicle - hybrid or not. Government intervention (subsidies) create a false economic structure for those technologies and the need for more and more subsidies, either at the production end or at the consumer end. The result is the same - the government takes more to pay for it. It comes from increased taxation. This is socialist economics and does not work.
July 24th, 2008
Well I can assure you that I value each and every one of my dollars that I earn. As a student, they are very hard to come by despite my best efforts to save. However, I do believe in this plan because it allows me to pocket more of my money and make choices on what I want to buy.
July 24th, 2008
Ok that is fine. But if you believe that to be so, why run your election platform with the firm stance that you will not tax income trusts.
If you have been given new information or learn something new then at least engage in some sort of public consultation process because unfortunately a lot people have been negatively affected by this choice…
July 24th, 2008
Well why is it that the Conservatives accepted Mr Gomery to work the inquiry?
They thought he would expose the “dirt”. He did, the Liberal Party made a huge mistake and those who are guilty are being tried.
The others face public scrutiny despite being cleared by Mr Gomery. I dont think that is fair…
July 24th, 2008
But with Mr Dion’s plan it will make more financial sense for you to do so and you will be rewarded for it…
July 24th, 2008
Nick - The Liberal government made more than a “huge mistake” - it was CORRUPTION. The federal Liberal lined Liberal pockets through the sponsorship program. Chretien as leader of the party and the country is responsible - he was in charge. Yet he’s gotten away with it.
July 24th, 2008
I am not condoning the Sponsorship Scandal…it was an embarrassment to Canada.
I just know that people have to get past it, I know it may prove difficult but it is for the best of the country because that will not happen again and Mr Harper cannot lead this country any longer…
July 24th, 2008
Frankly Im not sure where exactly the money will come from but there is money there. I would be lying to say I did because I am not him…all I can tell you is that is not coming from the Green Shift plan.
July 24th, 2008
I was negatively impacted by the decision - I had shares in BCE when Harper brought in the change. The income trust was a bubble that needed to be burst before it got worse, it was the right decision. Had the Liberals dealt with the problem earlier, it would have been only a small blip in the markets. They were fully aware of the problem developing but chose to ignore it. They chose popularity rather than do what was right.
July 24th, 2008
Say that many companies eat the costs of the carbon tax initially;which is fine b/c they have the right to do so.By year 4 that choice may be a flawed one if they decided to not address(or did very minimal work on) their emissions because by that point the tax will be at its highest and would move higher after that (w/ more offsetting tax cuts of course) in addition to the workings of a cap and trade system.People need more $ in their pockets to help steer the market themselves…
July 24th, 2008
Why is it Canadians have to ‘get past’ the sponsorship scandal but Mulroney is still being investigated and trashed by the media long after he left office? Why did the crook Chretien use the full weight of government litigation to attack Mulroney? Why didn’t the Liberals just get past it?
Remember too that Harper’s government is looking at Mulroney too - getting to the bottom of it. Should they ‘get past’ that too?
July 24th, 2008
These investments are not life preservers, or drugs for a drug addict. They will not need to come back for more. They simply need a bit of help to get going and the market will right the ship itself…