Loading ...Stéphane Dion’s ultimatum
Stéphane Dion says the Liberal Party will vote to defeat the government unless the Speech from the Throne addresses four key issues. The government will be defeated if it loses the Throne Speech vote in October.
Dion says that in order to guarantee Liberal Party support of the Throne Speech, the government must:
- Immediately inform NATO that Canada’s combat mission in Afghanistan will end in 2009
- Table the Clean Air and Climate Change Act in the next Parliamentary session
- Put forward a “real” economic plan
- Put forward a credible plan to address poverty
Stephen Harper has already committed to a vote in the House of Commons on extending the Afghan mission, and he unlikely to commit the government to any policy beforehand, putting him at odds with Dion’s first demand.
If we don’t have these 4 priorities, we will not be able to support this Throne Speech.
All three political parties must vote against the Throne Speech in order to defeat the government.
Like the Liberal Party, the Bloc Québécois has also promised to defeat the government if it doesn’t commit to ending the mission in Afghanistan.
The NDP also want the government to pull out of Afghanistan, but so far have not threatened to defeat the government over the issue.
Update, September 16 - This video has received a several hundred views from the Small Dead Animals blog, not to mention dozens of interesting and insightful comments from regular readers of the Roadkill Diaries.
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September 14th, 2007
I don’t know how to feel about the end of this interview. I can see both sides, although Peter makes a valid point that if this is a central issue then priority should be put on travel to the region.
Thanks for posting.
September 14th, 2007
Oops. I guess he wasn’t expecting that last question =P
September 16th, 2007
“I will do my6 best to go, Peter”
lame answer, Citoyen Dion.
September 18th, 2007
Perhaps Mr.Dion should go.Our media representatives would do Canadians a favour by striving to better inform them on the real considerations and events taking place there.Canada is part of an occupying force.Innocent civilians continue to die at the hands of the coalition forces.A corrupt puppet regime comprised of yesterday’s warlords and today’s self-serving profiteers ignore the very people NATO came to liberate and fight for.Hum!Maybe going there isn’t/wasn’t such a good idea after all.
September 19th, 2007
He completely dropped the ball on that last question. Very similar to his responce to Igna in the liberal leader debates. When you trap this guy with a question, and he knows he is wrong, he pretty much whines and gets mad because he knows he is wrong but cannot possibly admit it. Not voting Lib while this tool is around.
September 19th, 2007
This is so very sad! Can some liberals please try to defend this guy? I remember the liberals laughing at someone crying (like a little boy) that, “It’s not fair!”. If liberals laugh at this man, shouldn’t all Canadians?
September 19th, 2007
Sorry to liberal defenders (we now see that they are becoming fewer and fewer)–but; I had to send another note. How can anyone see this as anything but a sad attempt at trying to defend liberal hypocracy–I ask liberals to stand up for Canada and support the Conservatives!
September 19th, 2007
Visits to Afganland go through the CDS. The CDS is in the PM’s pocket.
Of note; Mr. Dion didn’t go to the VIMY Ridge celebrations in France .Why, because the PM waited just one week before to invite him although the event was planned a year in advance.
Something to think about.
September 19th, 2007
Dang Dion is a wreck. If he wants to keep your position as a leader in the greatest country in the world, he needs to be more aware of important issues in Canada. Boo Urns Dion!! Definately staying Conservative this year
September 21st, 2007
The position of the Liberal party is they don’t have a policy. No combat mission in a war zone? I’m sure the Taliban are thrilled. Brilliant policy Dion.
He hasn’t gone to Afghanistan because he is a coward.
September 22nd, 2007
Dion’s position is one tiny step less for the war in A-stan that the Conservatives. He has no policy, and Harper flip flops? That’s what Dion’s been doing. Canada is already helping to rebuild, Dion’s on crack.
September 23rd, 2007
Harper isn’t elected by Afgans. He has a duty to Canada, We help where we can, but if he thinks he and he alone can retool a culture ingrained with prejudice and hate in one generation then he is a fool. He is dismissing the struggle of our own Country’s ancestors.
To that end the Taliban are not all foreign, they are Afgan to some degree this is a civilwar as much as a cultural one.
we(NATO) are there to kill those who would kill use and that is job 1. Everything else is secondary.
September 23rd, 2007
“Canada is already helping to rebuild,”…. Are you interested in perception or fact? Omly $1 dollar in $10 goes toward rebuilding. Don’t be fooled by a Prime Minister who’s every second word on this issue is “schools” or “hospitals”,cause it just ain’t true.
$1 in $10.
September 23rd, 2007
He alone? Are you on crack? Why don’t you go tell that to the troops in Afghanistan, I dare you to. Actually, tell it to some of them who have returned home, just try it.
NATO is there to drive out an oppressive regime, they are isolated, and they are losing ground. But the Afghans need our help, and if we turn our backs, everyone who gave their lives for these people will have died for nothing.
September 23rd, 2007
Rather Ironic that Mr. Harper wants to be seen as some sort of “Afghan womens freedom fighter” , trying to get them out of the house.
Yet, his child care policy and budget cutting of womens programs in Canada(including adult literacy) are sending Canadian women back to that same “house” and out of our labour force, or is that the plan?
September 23rd, 2007
Drive them where, Pakistan each week only to rest and come back to kill again? NATO needs its ass kicked as it too is happy with the status quo, then again why wouldn’t it Europe isn’t suffering the causualties Canada is. Perhaps they should be mede to allow their forces out after dark as we do? Who do we have that can apply that kind of pressure? Mr. Status Qoe” Harper?
September 23rd, 2007
Nice sentiment,Do you do needlepoint?Perhaps you could sew that on a cushion?
Where are the Afgan protesters? Surely any culture that desires freedom as much as their “puppet leader” would have us believe should step up?.We have a good military but suppling “backbone”is not the mandate here.Friend one day,foe the next/ it’s bullshit.
September 23rd, 2007
His child care policy offers CHOICE, the Liberal policy wants to shove the kids in the Liberal party’s created daycare where they can start early at becoming young liberals.
Women’s programs? Have you ever heard these women talk? They’re the most extreme feminists we have. They don’t speak for the majority of women in this country.
All he did was revoke funding from these man-hating activist groups.
September 23rd, 2007
Ummm, the last time NATO met, the serious issue of the commitment of the other countries was made a clear issue. Pressure is being applied.
September 23rd, 2007
Our military is training their military. We’re more than a backbone, we’re building infrastructure. And who is their leader a puppet for? Bush and oil? That’s the usual remark, when their really isn’t an oil industry.
September 23rd, 2007
Choice?… to work or stay home as you can’t find a Day space Care after a promise of creating thousands of new ones.
WOMEN, “They don’t speak for the Majority of Women” but stats still do and they still say it isn’t dad staying home with the kids.
Wage Parody is manhating?I think not.
September 23rd, 2007
Remember this?
Pakistan’s Dictator while on Canadian soil said ” Canadians should stop whining about losing a few soldiers in NATO operations in Afghanistan”, and saying Pakistan had suffered far greater losses in the war on terrorism….
“We have suffered 500 casualties, Canadians may have suffered four or five,” he said in a CBC interview….
BULLSHIT as he included his army’s deaths suffered killing his own separatists he labelled as terrorists.
September 23rd, 2007
Our PM’s BLISTERING reply…
“Pakistan is an important ally in the fight against terror,” Prime Minister Stephen Harper A year and a half later…said “We’re all aware of the cross-border movement of insurgents between Pakistan and Afghanistan, and we know that Pakistan has increased its efforts in this regard and we’ll continue to encourage them to do so.”
It’s been a year and a half, not one Alquida captured.
Time for a change and time for answers.
September 23rd, 2007
realvek, you’re absolutely right. I agree with everything you had to say. I have friends in the military and one was killed by a roadside bomb last year. They have seen the work done in Afghanistan and, both in life and death, they support the mission. Perhaps our Liberal counterparts should go over there and see the progress our brave men and women are making over there. God bless them all.
September 23rd, 2007
The first visit Harper did as PM was to go and see the troops in Afghanistan. When was the last time Paul Martin went over there? And Dion should keep his mouth shut about flip flopping since he’s done it more than any other elected politician.
September 23rd, 2007
He went and saw the troops. I hope he updated them on he and L’il Peter Mackay’s progress on getting NATO into a troop rotation.
I trust he told them about the progress with the pressure they have been appling on Pakistan to sort out it’s act or have it sorted for them. Or did he just go fishing and not cut bait?
September 23rd, 2007
Choice to work, for EITHER parent, choice of where to put a child to take care of it, putting money back in Canadian’s pockets, giving them the liberty to decide where it goes.
Maternal instinct often keeps women home, and it’s still their choice. Don’t take your aggression out on everyone else because on average their are less career women than men.
September 23rd, 2007
Al-Qaeda’s stronghold isn’t in Afghanistan anymore, it’s contested territory and no islamic terrorist would want to situated there.
Pakistan is fighting hard, unless you’re suggesting we get involved with another country’s internal politics as well. Both Pakistan and Afghanistan suffer much greater casualities than we ever could.
September 23rd, 2007
Why don’t you just search google news for Pakistan? I’d post a link but they aren’t allowed in comments.
September 23rd, 2007
Sadly,The USA has sealed the fate of this mission by going into Iraq.Five years on and are we to sit on a border and literally get picked off one by one? Why did/do we back the Dictator next door in true US fashion?
It’s like The Shaw of Iran” all over,he too used American weapons to “quell” his own people. Surely even Steven Harper can see how that turned out.
September 23rd, 2007
The Tories are out to lunch on this policy and that of Israel too.They have no Mid East platform other than to simply vie for votes. In short, it’s like every other ill conceived platform they have.
September 23rd, 2007
The Pakistan issue is clear, If NATO is not willing to Go Big(indications are they aren’t)then they should Go Home.For Canada to allow it’s soldiers to be paraded before an enemy they are prevented from closing with and destroying is ludicrous. It is shameful to be represented by politicians who would allow such a thing and be happy with the status qoe.
September 24th, 2007
It’s called investment into Canada, and where’s your proof about foreign Money in government coffers? That sounds like bribery, it’s taxation. Those Canadian companies were siezed long before the Torys too power.
September 24th, 2007
I like Denmark, all 6 million of them, its good they can kick our ass. I bet it makes them feel good.Besides they will give us a deal when we have to buy the technology back,right?
we ll would benefit from kyoto, not just the poor countries.
September 24th, 2007
We can benefit from greener technology without Kyoto. We don’t need Kyoto to do that.
September 24th, 2007
It’s called “buying Canada”…Inco, Dafasco, Falconbridge, Labatt, Molsen, The Bay, even The Montreal Canadians?
Foreign Resourse industries holding our children’s birthright.All for a quick buck.Say it isn’t so.
September 24th, 2007
All I was saying is that much of it was bought before the Conservatives took power. I’m not denying that it was true. But none of them were anyone’s birthright, those who owned them sold them, go complain to them for not selling them to a lower bidder.
September 24th, 2007
Can we benefit from a Government that refused to recognize there is a problem to begin with?
September 24th, 2007
That depends on whether you have a problem with a free market. They’re not your companies, if you don’t like it start your own and don’t sell it, or sell it to someone who YOU find appropriate. You have that freedom.
September 24th, 2007
You seem to think the Taliban fell from the sky, when in fact they are in and of that culture. It is not our job to overlay our template of values on the rest of the world. Where to next? perhaps Thiland where they prostitute nine year olds in the street. We are there to kill Osama and insure our own safety that is the only real right we have being there.Everything else is secondary. The road to hell is paved with good intensions.
September 24th, 2007
There are no true free markets as the Government introviens as it sees fit, setting interest rates etc. The Conservatives had/have the option of targeting resourse industry and make it less appealing to foreign takeover. The Government has the Freedom to protect the future of our children.This Government has choosen to not excercise that prerogative.
September 24th, 2007
All I’m saying is that on avg. there was 20 Billion dollars of foreign investment every six months of the last five or so years. This year alone saw 67 billion in the first six months. This Government refuses to recognise a problem as that may mean getting up of their hands and doing somethig about it.
September 24th, 2007
If it’s not our job to overlay our template of values, you should tell the Liberals to stop doing it to our society whenever they’re in government. Oh, and what about that agency of their’s CIDA, yeah, another Liberal obession. Well, the Liberals sent us to Afghanistan, it’s a mess, not the Conservatives have been left to clean up that mess.
September 24th, 2007
The government should intervene as little as possible with the affairs as the people. Their only real purpose should be to defend the liberties of those who live there.
September 24th, 2007
Investment in our country is good, that is money coming into Canada.
September 25th, 2007
More “needlepoint”for a pillow….
Our Liberties are interwoven with our interests at home and abroad. These interests insure our Security, thus our Liberty.
To waver is a dereliction to duty, something this Conservative “crowd of one” is Guilty of time and time again. Pointing a finger oesn’t absolve them of responsibility.
September 25th, 2007
Your interests should not hinder the liberties of others. Interests come after liberties.
September 26th, 2007
Well its almost official, With Harpers weak kneed approach ,We are becoming members of the illustrious 6 The APP….the Asia Pacific Polutters??? Screw the rest of the world we will make or own rules.
September 26th, 2007
Don’t get your panties in a knot because Cyoto Communism isn’t prevailing.
September 26th, 2007
Cyoto Communism has a Common Currency with which to Compare,Not made up “aspirations” mumbo jumbo.lol
September 26th, 2007
PPL who sign Kyoto:
Leaders of countries with no resources.
Leaders of countries who will receiving wealth sharing credits.
Leaders who won’t be in office when the deadline comes.
Leaders in the free world who aren’t communist-minded make targets without communist undertones.
September 26th, 2007
Hey it’s Harper’s deal that ASPIRES to be all touchey, feeley with RED China.lol.
Its a bloody scandal, all those countries (169+-)signing Kyoto,some with resources some with just air,it’s criminal I tell you.lol
September 26th, 2007
If Stephen Harper can get China to set some real targets, he’ll do more than Kyoto ever did.
September 27th, 2007
Given the fact He can’t set REAL TARGETS for his own government,I pass on HIM getting China to move.
September 27th, 2007
Your idea of real targets is having the taxpayers pay to retrofit all vehicles with fuel cells and to retrofit every home and business with $40-60 grand each in a cocktail of renewable energy sources.
September 27th, 2007
The Tory plan is to make reasonable steps, the Grit plan is to destroy our economy at any cost.
The founder of Greenpeace left the organization because it has become less about the environment and more about socialism. You nut jobs just want to dismantle our economy, and your governmently funded environmental activist groups have found the best way to do it.
The Tory’s will address the environment for the RIGHT reasons.
September 27th, 2007
“the Grit plan is to destroy our economy at any cost”. What colour is the sky in your world? DANGER, DANGER Will Robinson,Grit’s will Destroy.Grit’s will Destroy!lol
wE WANT TO SEIZE THE DAY
September 27th, 2007
The Grits don’t have principle, they just stand for whatever is to the left of the wherever the Tory’s principles stand. You cannot make a sound decision in government without weighing out the costs each decision. The Grits have lost all credibility by coming across as activists rather than lawmakers.
September 27th, 2007
You Tories are not even true to your selves. You continue to fleece the Canaddian Taxpayer and spend like drunken sailors. Mr. Harper is so close to the center that he is fogging up Mr. Dion’s glasses. Give me a break. We are activists in that we are and always have been active.
A hell of a lot more than I can say for a group of middle aged men that look, and act as if ready for the old age home,aka. Tory Party.
September 27th, 2007
Activism doesn’t belong in the House of Commons, lobbyist and activists lobby the government, that’s their job. When you put an activist in the House of Commons, he/she doesn’t care about all sides of the issue, they only care about getting what they want. They cannot represent the people, they only represent special interests. Let the people with those interests lobby the government, and let the government respond after considering all sides of the issue.
September 28th, 2007
Mr Dion, please confront mr Harper on his Bilderberg membership and SPP.
We Canadians want to remain Canadians and not join a North American Union.
Wake up!! This is a agenda, we do not want.
September 29th, 2007
Ignorance?…There are many who oppose the mission and have been there. Some of them are going back for their second and third tours.Some of them unfortunately are no longer able to do to death or injury…
Who speaks for them, and who is ignorant of there plight?
September 29th, 2007
The Oil/gas is in the Urals, Afghanistan is to provide the pipeline. Strangely or as you might say “coincidentally”, that pipeline is to run through the American sector.
September 30th, 2007
You show me a soldier in Afghanistan who opposes the mission, I have yet to meet one. My friend will be going back for his second tour of duty soon, and none of his fellow soldiers oppose it.
September 30th, 2007
Sounds good to me, I’ve invested in oil in the Urals. Though their’s plenty of demand without going through Afghanistan.
October 2nd, 2007
I have news for the Tory Party, Time, like Mother Nature waits for no one.
Any money saved by their ass dragging, denials, etc, will be offset in disaster relief later on.
Why should the non industrialized be marginalized and dismissed as having no say? Why should animals on the brink, and can least afford it bbare the cost a for more time? Surely they should have equal or greater say having not created the problem, not in Harpers incremental plan. It is Flawed from the get go.
October 3rd, 2007
And here comes the doomsday cries once again. Get real, you nuts were doing that back in the 70s too, and there was nothing to worry about.
They should not be marginalized, but they had nothing to lose in signing on, they agree, and others do the work for them.
October 7th, 2007
Sweet Jesus , The Tory’s are watching &o year old women collapse from standing in line for hours on end to TRY and get a Passport, AND THERE FINE WITH IT.
They will not defeat the throne speech for the simple reason that is what Harper wants,fuck him and the horse he rode in on I say. He put himself in this situation and now wants to table a bogus throne speech to get him self out, some Truth in Government. He is moving us in the other direction.
October 7th, 2007
So you think Dion will go back on his ultimatum and vote for the Throne Speech? I guess Harper will have his mandate after all.
October 7th, 2007
The Throne speech has never brought down a government. Harper in his “infinite wisdom”and arrogance,put himself ahead of all previous PM’s by not retaining the right to drop the writ. Now he wants the Lib’s to get his ass out of a ’sling’ of his own making.
The throne speech is not adequate to topple this shithouse government as it is a ‘wish list’ and vauge. He wants an election ,he then should feel the wrath of pissd off voters and exposed for the tool he most certainly is.
October 7th, 2007
So what exactly are you saying? Will the Liberals support Throne Speech or not? The Throne Speech is specifically about getting a mandate to govern, that’s WHY its a confidence vote, and losing the vote absolutely IS sufficient to topple the government, in fact that’s the point. You’d have to be living in a fantasy world to say otherwise. But if the Throne Speech is too vague for you, I guess you support Harper’s move to make the resulting legislative votes matters of confidence too?
October 7th, 2007
The Lib’s would be wrong to bounce Harperon on the throne speech. He should be seen as having to Orchestrate his own demise, as he screwed up by devolving the PM’s right to call an election.
His ego has figured out that his predecessors weren’t stupid after all, and hindsight is now about to bite him in the ass. Harper is a myopic bull, who in his 2nd year can’t convince Canadians to buy what he is selling.If he loses he is gone too, big stakes for he and Dion.
October 7th, 2007
If Canadians don’t support Harper’s agenda as you say, then how is it wrong for the Liberals to vote against the Throne Speech?
You can call Harper names if you like, but in our democratic system the government must win the confidence of Parliament in order to govern, or it must stand for election. So which is it, a new mandate or a new government? You seem to want no mandate and no election, just like a Liberal to hope for a situation where NOTHING GETS DONE!
October 7th, 2007
Example : Canadians support the changes to his Clean Air Act, if he or his Party doesn’t then it’s off to the polls.The voters then get to decide who acted immaturely and caused the election.
I laugh at the FACT that while in opposition Harper fought for ‘Confidence Votes’ to be limited to matters of Finance and the Throne Speech.
He is about to embark on another Flip Flop, and should be seen as doing so by all of Canada..
October 7th, 2007
Example of WHAT? What flip flop? Try thinking before you type Gillhoolee - or are you just a hack? Yes the Throne Speech is a confidence vote. Yes the Clean Air act requires spending and is therefore a money bill and therefore a confidence vote. Yes the government needs the support of the Parliament in order to govern. What’s your point?
October 7th, 2007
My point is The Throne speech is not the issueon which to take down the Government and give Harper an easy out.
It is Harper that wants an election, he just doesn’t want to be seen as wanting one.
I site the Clean Air Act asit is a single issue, not a group of ‘fuzzy may happens’. If the Government fails then the voters will want to, and deserve to know exactly why, that is my point.
Harper wants it and Canadians must see that he wants it.He should be made to work for it.
October 7th, 2007
What do you mean, Gillhoolee? You’re not making any sense. The Throne Speech is, by definition, the time to defeat the government. If the Liberals think Harper’s agenda is so bad for Canada then they have a duty to defeat the government on the Throne Speech or on any issue of confidence. Otherwise they’re just a bunch of hypocrites, like you.
October 8th, 2007
Harper is finally playing hardball with the sorry leader name Dion. Which is good.
October 8th, 2007
I agree, now we will see the real Harper and the real Dion.
October 8th, 2007
No Government has fallen on a Throne Speech. Does that not speak volumes?
No PM has ever given up his right to an election in a minority situation until Mr Harper came along.
Does that not say something?
He has painted himself in a corner,and may have to wait for the ‘paint’ to dry. He deserves as much.
Only a hypocrite would say he doesn’t want an election and work in the background tooth and nail for exactly that.
October 8th, 2007
Seems its Dion that has painted himself into a corner. Dion has a difficult choice - support the government or go for an election - either way he loses. Harper says he doesn’t want an election until 2009 (video P8TiIQ8GXrE), while Dion is threatening to defeat the Throne Speech. Both Dion and Harper have to be lying for you to be correct - is that what you think?
October 8th, 2007
So I guess you think Stephane Dion has a hidden agenda? How dare he hide his true self from us all this time.
October 8th, 2007
Dion’s agenda has been somewhat hidden, not by him but deliberately by the HarperRegime. Not for much longer, as the Liberals begin to role out their policy initiatives, Harper’s single mouth, bulling tactics, finger pointing and false accusations will not work this time.
If he wants to fight a campaign, he will realize that his “LOCK DOWN” tactics will backfire this time.
It will be like dropping Spanish troops into Kandahar, it should have been done sooner but they chose to sit on their ass.
October 8th, 2007
Its not Harper’s fault that Dion can’t articulate a policy or lead his party. The only ones making false accusations or pointing fingers are the Liberals, as usual. Harper has just created a situation that demonstrates Liberal hypocrisy by forcing them to do their duty as the Official Opposition and either support or defeat the government.
October 8th, 2007
I will govern as if I have a Majority, I want Parliament to work, I don’t want an election,LOFL
October 10th, 2007
From the onset,Who kept him from the Vimy Ridge Ceremonies?Who kept the the House of Commons from sitting for an extra month? Who paid for adds to malign his character, with out an election even looming?
You are right, HARPER HAS CREATED A SITUATION and it, like most Tory Policy will soon be debunked.
October 13th, 2007
Dion is a fag. Grow some fuckin’ balls Stephanie, or Stephane, or whatever your sissy name is. You aren’t a leader. Your own party is mocking you. If we let pussies like you call the shots, we might as well convert to Islam and wrap towels around are heads and institute Sharia Law. Harper! Harper! Harper!
October 17th, 2007
Wow! You win. Your argument is so well thought out; your eloquence so overwhelming that I bow before you in submission. From now on I will think just like you. Wait a minute, I’m not actually a brain-damaged third grader juicing himself with bull hormones while spitting on ethnic people from the safety of a penthouse apartment.
October 17th, 2007
Well, you’d be farther ahead if you did think like me manteats6. Dion threatens to call and election, he rips the Throne Speech. All he has to do is vote against it and we would have an election. But no, he wimps out. Like the wimpy wimp he is. I can’t recall a wimpier leader in Canadian history. He makes Joe Clark look like Winston Churchill.
October 17th, 2007
I wasn’t defending him; I haven’t heard an intelligible comment come out of his mouth since he became “leader” of the Liberals; I was however, attacking your juvenile comment. I’m sure you would’ve written it in crayon if the option was available. I just want to hear actual IDEAS not moronic grunting which cavemen delivered far more articulately.
October 20th, 2007
Oh my! How can anyone defend this guy? Please liberals, for once, please care more about Canada then your sad, corrupt party–let us join together in voting Conservative with Stephan Harper as our PM.
Make sense, right?
October 21st, 2007
Harper has painted himself in a corner. He obviously didn’t think fixed election dates through and expected Dion to get him out of his self made ‘jam’.
Now he has to Flipflop once again making everything a confidence vote after arguing in opposition that votes of confidence be limited to finance bills and the throne speech. lol, well done Mr CZARPER, well done.
October 21st, 2007
Gillhoolee: I don’t know if you believe your own bullshit or not, but its a waste of space.
Everyone else: Examine Gillhoolee’s Youtube comments to learn all you need to know about Canadian Liberals: They project their own faults on their opponents, and then whip themselves into a frenzy of hypocritical fake outrage and indignation.
Its DION who painted himself into a corner, and flip flopped on his ultimatum, Afghanistan, the Anti-terrorism Act and whether we can meet the Kyoto targets.
October 22nd, 2007
Long ago, I had a boss who had many bad qualities. His method of covering his issues was to accuse everyone else of having them. Here we see the lib-eral hypocracy for what it is. At least you can’t accuse the Conservatives of corruption–the lie-beral method of government.
October 25th, 2007
I guess you didn’t see (or choose to ignore) the TORY Ad scam during the last election? The Conservative National party gets to run its National ads on TV,the local MP claims them as ‘his’ expense and we the TAXPAYERS pays him 60% of the costof running them….”At least you can’t accuse the Conservatives of corruption”, Kinda looks like I just did.
Ignore it at your own peril.
October 25th, 2007
By all means examine my “body of work”, but please keep in mind that it is in fact mine.
I don’t think I would examine MontralMans comments and attribute them all to a “Conservative”,…. although I have yet to see one Conservative vlogger take him to task for such remarks.
I guess that in itself speaks volumes?
October 25th, 2007
A sad attempt to defend. I understand all Tory expenses were recorded, audited and available for public scrutiny and that the case is being appealed. (No envelopes full of public money being passed to fellow liberals in dark restaurants.) Please, be honest—surely you can see the difference. (Time to stand up for Canada.) By-the-way, you can accuse someone of corruption; but, I believe for one particular party, we proved it!!!
October 25th, 2007
“Painted himself into a corner“–you are used to the liberal method of loving the liberal party ahead of loving Canada. Harper did what is right for the country, not what was right for the Conservative Party by setting fixed election dates. Wonderfully refreshing isn`t it.
October 25th, 2007
Whats refreshing about a party that wants so badly to commit Hara-kiri, but wants to blame someone else for it’s suicide? So much so they come up with Silly ideas like reintroducing Crime legeslation that has already passed the House. In some bizarre BS charge of stalling by Liberals? This from a Party that actually produced a BOOK on it,lol..How gullible do you think Canadains are?
.Oh by the way I hope the PM and his ’sheep’ enjoyed his extra month off this summer.
October 25th, 2007
I see a difference in that as many as 60 Conservative MP’s may have knowingly taken part in this scam and not one had the morals to see that it was wrong(except onein Quebec).
All this while running ads to discredit the Liberals. Just more ‘Harper-ocrisy’, have they no shame?
October 25th, 2007
We have now (very quickly, by-the-way) have come to the time where I am embarrassed for you! If the crime bill is simply re-introducing legislation that has already passed, the lie-berals should simply shut-up and pass it. If it is different, just vote against it and explain to Canadians why in a general election. Why do lie-berals always want to make everything so confusing? (Unless, of course, they have a hidden agenda.)
October 25th, 2007
You are getting very confused. Your comment of “may have knowingly” as opposed to the fact of the lie-berals being convicted of committing a criminal offence says it all!! Agreed? (Pleasssse, be honest.)
October 25th, 2007
Despite Tory efforts the truth will come out, unless Mr. Harper can find an excuse to replace the head of Elections Canada.
Lord knows he continues to try by making “veiled” threats on how to intemperate more of his flawed legislation from as far away as Australia,lol
October 25th, 2007
Yes, and The Supreme Court should perhaps do the same when they throw it back in Harpers face.
Lets not forget Mr. ‘Smiley’ has a MINORITY and without support does not have the Will of most Canadians.
Gee, and to think they accused the Liberals of arrogance.
October 25th, 2007
I suggest we combine these responses (I know lie-berals are not keen on efficiencies). Please read your responses, “truth will come out”, “veiled threats”, “perhaps do the same”–these are all soft and weak statements (Mr Dion is learning from you)–here is one for you to address, “The lie-berals were convicted of the biggest corruption sandal in Canadian history”. Yes or No? Please respond.
October 25th, 2007
I suggest we combine these responses (I know lie-berals are not keen on efficiencies). Please read your responses, “truth will come out”, “veiled threats”, “perhaps do the same”–these are all soft and weak statements–here is one for you to address, “The lie-berals were convicted of the biggest corruption sandal in Canadian history”. Yes or No? Please respond.
October 25th, 2007
List the Liberal MP’s that are in Jail, please Respond.
October 25th, 2007
Please answer Yes or No!, Did your question contained the word “History”. I guess I should do like most Tory legislation and “intemperate it”.
October 25th, 2007
The only response I can provide is: “???”.
Have you been drinking? (Your grammar is not coherent.)
Answer previous questions; or, sober up, and you can attempt a response tomorrow…deal?
October 25th, 2007
Criminal wrong doing should not be tolerated in any party. This the Liberals have to acknowledged, So why is it that the Tory Party is refusing to acknowledge it’s own wrong doing during the last election campaign?
October 25th, 2007
Time to put down the bottle, go to bed and e-mail something of some substance tomorrow…Agreed?
October 25th, 2007
Have you, “Passed out”? Don’t worry-lie-berals will be spreading their lies tomorrow and forever more as they care about themselves and the lib-eral party rather than Canada. Time to “Stand up for Canada”.
October 25th, 2007
Intimidate, insult and malign….all Tory tactics, Setting an Agenda doesn’t alow you the control of timetable as well( as Harper is now learning too).lol